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'Institutional racism exists?' Ranvir Singh probes Lisa Nandy on UK racism

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Good Morning Britain was discussing the race report findings today and when Lisa Nandy MP joined Susanna Reid and Ranvir Singh, she was asked whether she thinks institutional racism still exists. It comes after the government’s report which was commissioned in the wake of the Black Lives Matter protests rejected suggestions that Britain is still an institutionally racist country. 

The 264-page report concludes the UK has become a “more open society” where children from a variety of ethnic communities are performing well, or substantially better than white pupils in compulsory education. 

Findings also argued the issues around race and racism are “becoming less important” and in some cases, are not a significant factor behind explaining disparities. 

However, race advisers have said Britain is not “a post-racial society” and “overt and outright racism still persists” in the country, especially online. 

When Labour’s Shadow Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs was asked her thoughts on the findings, she said she thought the report “sounded deeply confused”. 

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Singh said: You did use the term structural racism – we had the author on earlier saying people use that term ‘willy-nilly’ and ‘don’t really know what it means’. 

“The report says that it doesn’t believe structural, institutional – replace with whatever word you want there – institutional racism exists and structural racism is a way of saying institutional racism isn’t it? 

“But you still then believe it exists because you’ve used the term there,” the presenter continued. 

Nandy commented: “My dad was one of the authors of the race relations act many decades ago where they first defined institutional racism in law. 

GMB spoke to the author of the report, Dr Tony Sewell, Chair of Race and Ethnic Disparities Commission, earlier on the show. 

We’re not denying the reality of racism but… we remain thinking about this is an important thing,” he said. 

“The trajectory – patricianly for ethnic minorities – things are improving.” 

Comedian Eshaan Akbar had been invited to discuss the findings too, later in the show and he said: “If you go to more senior positions – they’re not there from a representation perspective – perhaps they don’t don’t have the ability or ambition when it fact earlier on in their educational lives they were doing really well.” 

 

Afua Adom also said: “If you really ask black people in communities, they would tell you differently.”

Good Morning Britain airs weekdays at 6am on ITV. 



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