Erika Jayne cried while talking about estranged husband Tom Girardi on Wednesday during the fourth and final reunion episode of The Real Housewives Of Beverly Hills.
The 50-year-old reality star was grilled for most of the show by host and franchise executive producer Andy Cohen, 53, about the embezzlement scandal surrounding disgraced lawyer Tom, 82, who has been accused of stealing millions from clients.
Erika continued to defend herself against any suggestion that she was knowledgeable about her estranged husband Tom’s alleged dealings and she said if she knew about the allegations against him that she wouldn’t be on a reality show.
Wiping tears: Erika Jayne cried while talking about estranged husband Tom Girardi on Wednesday during the fourth and final reunion episode of The Real Housewives Of Beverly Hills on Bravo
‘Lets be clear here. I wouldn’t (be on the show) because you can’t hide s*** like this,’ said Erika. ‘This is not some master plan. This is not Erika being some financial f***ing mastermind. This is a tragic sequence of events that are completely terrible.’
Andy’s first question of the night was whether the other housewives believed Erika when she said she didn’t know about Tom’s business dealings. Lisa Rinna, Sutton Stracke and Kyle Richards all said they never questioned that.
But Crystal Kung Minkoff, 35, did have a question. She wanted to know where was Erika’s anger towards Tom.
‘I am very angry,’ said Erika, 49. ‘Hear it in my voice. Am I angry enough now for you?’
Hot seat: The 50-year-old reality star was grilled for most of the show by host and franchise executive producer Andy Cohen, 53, about the embezzlement scandal surrounding disgraced lawyer Tom, 82, who has been accused of stealing millions from clients
Andy, 53, said to Erika that when the women asked her questions that seemed fairly reasonable that she lashed out.
‘Absolutely, Andy, I’m lashing out at everybody and why wouldn’t I?’ Erika said.
‘You are biting people’s heads off,’ Andy told her. He said if his friends were asking him questions that he would try to make them understand without isolating them.
Biting heads: ‘You are biting people’s heads off,’ Andy told her after she snapped at Crystal Kung Minkoff
Andy said he didn’t think the women were asking her questions because they were against her, but Erika thought she did. Erika said if they had questions that they should have just come to her and talk to her about them.
Dorit Kemsley, 44, said that she felt that Erika would have bitten their heads off if they questioned her. Erika asked if she would have wanted to have been called a liar.
Andy asked the other housewives if when it first came out that people were alleging that Erika’s divorce was a sham whether they believed it. Kyle, Lisa, and Dorit told Andy they never thought the divorce was a sham. Lisa added that when they learned what Tom had allegedly done that it was shocking.
Felt intimidated: Dorit Kemsley, 44, said that she felt that Erika would have bitten their heads off if they questioned her
Dorit explained that when the allegations first surfaced in the Los Angeles Times that they were shocked and discussed it together. Dorit said that tensions were high when they had a meeting after that at Sutton’s house.
Erika said that they should have invited her to Sutton’s house meeting so she could have explained to them directly what was happening.
‘It’s easier to talk behind my back instead of including me in a conversation,’ she said.
Back talk: ‘It’s easier to talk behind my back instead of including me in a conversation,’ she said
One viewer then asked Erika that since she lived off credit cards when she realized that Tom was having money problems. She said when she was on Broadway in 2020 that one of her cards was declined.
Andy asked the housewives if anyone had been aware that Tom was having money trouble. Kyle said she had but that Andy knew as much as she did. Andy said that they had both heard from the same person a few years ago that he was in financial trouble.
Erika asked him why he didn’t come to her and Andy said ‘it didn’t register.’
Money problems: Kyle Richards said she had heard of Tom having money problems, but that Andy knew as much as she did
Financial woes: A DailyMail.com article was then shown about Bethenny Frankel claiming she knew years ago but Tom’s financial woes
Viewers also wanted answers from Erika about the scene where she broke down crying and her mascara ran down her cheek. They questioned whether it was theatrics because Erika insisted that she always wore waterproof mascara. She said that she did always wear waterproof mascara because of her allergies, but that day she did not and it was just a fluke.
Andy then asked Erika if she had spoken to Tom since he moved into an assisted living facility. She said she had and it was very sad. Her eyes teared up when Andy asked her about those conversations.
Erika said she just wanted to make sure he was safe.
Assisted living: Andy then asked Erika if she had spoken to Tom since he moved into an assisted living facility
Wet eyes: Erika said she just wanted to make sure Tom was safe as she fought back tears
Next, Andy asked her why she blew up at Garcelle Beauvais, 54, when she revealed to the other housewives that Tom called Erika every day. Erika said she got mad because she didn’t want people to have an impression that they were colluding. Erika said she hadn’t spoken to him until he went into the care facility.
Erika said he called her every day and that called her five times just during the taping of the reunion special
Andy asked Erika if she ever expressed her anger with him and Erika said she had. She said she asked him how he could put her in this position.
Anger query: Andy asked Erika if she ever expressed her anger with him and Erika said she had
‘Have you asked him if he did it?,’ said Andy.
Erika said with tears streaming down her face that she asked him, ‘Why would you leave me with millions of dollars of lawsuits pointed at me?’
Andy asked her if she asked Tom if he stole from those people and Erika said that Tom doesn’t even acknowledge any of it.
Tears streaming: Erika said with tears streaming down her face that she asked him, ‘Why would you leave me with millions of dollars of lawsuits pointed at me?’
‘It doesn’t even matter what he says because he’s incompetent,’ said Erika. ‘So I’m left holding the f***ing bag.’
‘I probably shouldn’t even be telling you that,’ said Erika. ‘Go ahead, what else.’
Andy said the big bombshell in the LA Times article was that $20 million was transferred to her company. Erika said that was not true. She said her lawyer wrote to Page Six and other outlets but that side of the story hasn’t been told.
Together again: The cast gathered with Andy for the season 11 reunion
‘You spent $14 million dollars on your American Express card?’ asked Andy.
‘Over 12 years,’ said Erika. ‘If you knock that down to $2 million per year that is pretty much what we are all doing this year. I mean doing, in this lifestyle.’
Andy wanted to know her reaction to the allegations that Tom’s money that he stole from others funded her lavish lifestyle. Erika said that every aspect of Tom’s bankruptcy would be examined and pulled apart. She said she was not in bankruptcy and was being sued.
Bankruptcy process: Erika said that every aspect of Tom’s bankruptcy would be examined and pulled apart
He asked her about how when she said that Tom started making bad decisions after his car accident three years ago but the LA Times said the allegations against Tom began a lot longer. Andy said that people thought that Erika was manipulating the narrative. She said she wasn’t.
Andy read a question from a viewer who said she was disappointed in the other housewives for not asking Erika the hard questions, Kyle said she did.
Garcelle asked Erika if she was going to apologize to Sutton for telling her that she would go for her if she came after her again. Erika said she just meant that she wouldn’t back her up on the show, but Andy said it seemed like it was much more threatening than that.
Threatening language: Garcelle Beauvais asked Erika if she was going to apologize to Sutton for telling her that she would go for her if she came after her again
Garcelle said that one of her biggest regrets was that she didn’t call out Erika that night at Kathy Hilton’s dinner party and call her a bully.
Sutton said for a week that she hired security and Erika laughed. Sutton told Erika it was not an okay way to speak to her. Erika told her it was not okay to say ‘someone made a deal with the devil.’
‘But I have my opinion,’ said Sutton.
Hired security: Sutton said for a week that she hired security and Erika laughed
‘And I have mine,’ Erika shot back.
Suttons told her she should act like an adult. Erika told her she was an adult, but Sutton said it didn’t seem like that at that table.
‘And it felt like you were being a b*** f***ing c***,’ said Erika. ‘That’s what it felt like.’
Firing back: ‘And it felt like you were being a b*** f***ing c***,’ said Erika. ‘That’s what it felt like’
Erika said she didn’t know her well enough to call her a liar. Sutton said that Erika pretended to be her friend and that she wasn’t being sincere and that was called ‘lying.’
Erika said ‘no, that’s actually just playing your a**.’
A viewer asked Lisa why she did not question Erika the way she did to other housewives like Yolanda Hadid, Kim Richards and Denise Richards. Lisa said she didn’t feel good about what she did to the other housewives and that she ‘had to live with the consequences of her action.’
Lying charge: Sutton said that Erika pretended to be her friend and that she wasn’t being sincere and that was called ‘lying’
‘If I could take it back and not go through those moments to be honest I would take each and everyone of them back,’ said Lisa.
Andy also mentioned Lisa’s questioning of Lisa Vanderpump. Erika said that the comparison between her and Vanderpump wasn’t analogous because the British restaurateur didn’t show up and she did.
‘I showed up today,’ said Erika. ‘As vicious and as angry and as hurt and as beatdown as I am, she couldn’t answer the bell, I f***ing did.’
Showed up: ‘I showed up today,’ said Erika. ‘As vicious and as angry and as hurt and as beatdown as I am, she couldn’t answer the bell, I f***ing did’
‘She never answered questions,’ said Dorit.
After viewer said that Sutton was a good friend to Erika by flying everyone out to see her Broadway show, Erika wondered why didn’t she come to her to talk instead of just calling her a liar. Sutton denied it but the other women said it was on camera.
‘Can someone please back me the f*** up on what I’m saying,’ said Erika.
Seeking backup: ‘Can someone please back me the f*** up on what I’m saying,’ said Erika
Lisa said they were agreeing with her.
Erika then asked Andy why he was smiling at her and he said she was a ‘piece of work.’
‘I’ve never met anyone like you,’ said Andy.
Unique person: ‘I’ve never met anyone like you,’ Andy said to Erika
‘Listen, I understand that the story I am telling is f***ing wild, okay,’ said Erika.
Andy then asked her about Tom’s car accident. She told them how she found Tom at the bottom of the ravine.
‘This whole thing is surreal but it is completely true,’ said Erika.
Completely true: ‘This whole thing is surreal but it is completely true,’ said Erika
Erika also said that she did not speak to Tom’s children.
Andy said that every post Erika did people would bring up the victims and she said she could serve the victims best by cooperating in court.
‘And that is what I’ve done,’ said Erika.
Andy thanked her for answering every question. He then asked the other women if they had any other questions for Erika. They said that they didn’t.
No questions: Andy thanked Erika for answering his questions and the women had no further questions for her
He said the most important thing that he heard from Erika today was about her expressing sympathy for the victims and for them to get any rectification that was due to them.
‘That’s right, absolutely the legitimate claims need to be taken care of,’ said Erika. ‘Can I just say one thing, thank you for hearing me out today. This is not pretty. It is ugly. I am well aware and I have been pressed for however for many months now and stories have run wild and people have filled in the blanks. I hope today that you all leave knowing a little bit more of my side and understand this will not be wrapped up easily. It is a long arduous process and all I can do is put one foot in front of the other.’
The fourth and final reunion episode then ended with a traditional toast.
Toast time: The fourth and final reunion episode ended with a traditional toast